tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post5646474395818272816..comments2023-10-01T08:40:34.503-07:00Comments on Episcopal Journey of Hope: Episcopal ChaosAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05776475116127746642noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-17815284954776005672012-07-17T11:09:28.923-07:002012-07-17T11:09:28.923-07:00I can't agree with Steve that there was "...I can't agree with Steve that there was "no fear" at the General Convention. My disappointment was that there was little commitment to the issue of the Palestinians--the fear is that we will upset our relationship with Judaism for abuse of Palestinian Christians. Pitting a tank against a pop-gun is hardly brave or fearless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-19493316845985028232012-07-14T10:55:36.489-07:002012-07-14T10:55:36.489-07:00Steve,
Actually, GC77 did nothing more than form...Steve, <br /><br />Actually, GC77 did nothing more than form a committee to think and study structure in the hopes of a recommendation three years from now. Hard not to vote in favor. No realy action was taken, no real change, nothing of substance. Just another committee......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-17372384214840614522012-07-12T21:38:39.214-07:002012-07-12T21:38:39.214-07:00Chaos is the result of a universe of randomnicity....Chaos is the result of a universe of randomnicity. Randomnicity is no more Satanic than oxygen. It is essential to the design of God's creation.Bill McVeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15174427416489886274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-85523159895834535172012-07-12T19:30:12.067-07:002012-07-12T19:30:12.067-07:00Let us kick satan out of our churches so we won&#...Let us kick satan out of our churches so we won't have all that chaos to upset us all. Thanks to to GOD that we are a surviving church! Steve, well saidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-11095122350142381292012-07-11T15:47:23.594-07:002012-07-11T15:47:23.594-07:00Steve, your note is Gospel. Thanks be to God. May ...Steve, your note is Gospel. Thanks be to God. May such calm bring us all a discerning communion.Ron Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18152111587171163605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-87483347163717748922012-07-11T15:02:21.025-07:002012-07-11T15:02:21.025-07:00Being here at the House of Deputies, I have witnes...Being here at the House of Deputies, I have witnessed "chaos" but there is no fear... for the assembled voted faithfully in favor of a resolution to proceed with changing the institutional structure..... without a single dissenting vote....followed by a spontaneous standing ovation and moment of celebration! I am witnessing God's provision in the life of the church.steve segebrechthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747372534934645790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-16468229910016828362012-07-11T08:25:38.547-07:002012-07-11T08:25:38.547-07:00We really have to leave Platonism and it's abs...We really have to leave Platonism and it's absolutes behind and look at things from the standpoint of physics. Everything moves all the time and the tricksters job is to penetrate the moving nature of the church and poke holes in the institutions hiarchy that sees itself as ideal, absolute and permanent.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05776475116127746642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-50481897444731463512012-07-10T17:31:12.055-07:002012-07-10T17:31:12.055-07:00Anglicanism and the Episcopal Church has shape shi...Anglicanism and the Episcopal Church has shape shifted many times. Even since WWII, we have shifted from a colonial and culturally dominating ecclesiastical institution to many national church bodies in a communion. We successfully tested "bottom up" mission and its funding through Venture in Mission, the single most successful such project in North American Church history. We have been poised for full, local/regional emerging forms of mission organization for at least three decades. Is not time to move on to a great proliferation of little Anglican configurations just about anywhere?Ron Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18152111587171163605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-5223834544913690642012-07-10T09:52:04.131-07:002012-07-10T09:52:04.131-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Andy Piercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03084409889493904605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-27965339438786698362012-07-09T13:01:53.556-07:002012-07-09T13:01:53.556-07:00The problem with us tricksters is that we are by n...The problem with us tricksters is that we are by nature disorganized. We are chaotic, and thus it is unlikely we would form a house or club or society, because we're too busy being tricky. But we need some way of coming together or at least an invitation from the power-wielders to come jest in their court.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10172287386504418287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-90241910543367991862012-07-09T11:04:47.980-07:002012-07-09T11:04:47.980-07:00I LOVE what little I can understand of chaos theor...I LOVE what little I can understand of chaos theory, but never clearly saw how it fit into church and theology. Thanks for getting me started on this thinking. Seems like the Episcopal Church was somewhat founded on this theory as I understand it from the work of Margaret Wheatley. Few bottom lines and then let people be creative. What would be the bottom lines? The Creeds? Baptismal covenant? The fact we have services from a common book??<br /><br />Thanks for starting this conversation.Rebecca Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10310645190305472024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-77493204045237722442012-07-09T10:45:28.731-07:002012-07-09T10:45:28.731-07:00God is indeed in both the complexity and the simpl...God is indeed in both the complexity and the simplicity. Platonic and Aristotelian metaphysics is unhelpful.Joe Dugganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213826227329522249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5127977175298485373.post-35440188687760988782012-07-09T07:57:22.324-07:002012-07-09T07:57:22.324-07:00I have been studying, praying and hoping for such ...I have been studying, praying and hoping for such a Celtic trickiness for fifteen years. We are in a period of radical shape shifting. I hope the time for low level emergence has come. Thanks, great work.Ron Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18152111587171163605noreply@blogger.com